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Dreams are experienced by the body, but activities in dreams such as running and speaking are not executed by the lying physical body.

梦是被身体经验到的，但梦中的奔跑、说话等活动并非由躺着的身体执行。

Concept dream state · Domain Dream Consciousness and Self-Representation · ontological claim · interface 3/3 · testability 3/3 · status supported

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Seth sources (book §session)
Adjudicating experiment
Approximately 60 healthy participants and 30 patients with REM sleep behavior disorder each undergo 3 nights of video-polysomnography including limb and facial EMG, respiration, heart rate, and immediate dream reports; in lucid dreamers, step counting, running imagery, and speaking tasks are arranged with eye-movement timing. The project lasts about 12 months, comparing correspondence among dreamed actions, actual actions, and autonomic responses.
Suggested paper title
Dissociation Between Dreamed Actions and Motor Output During REM Sleep
What it would overturn
This would not overturn mainstream assumptions: the separability of dream action representation from peripheral motor execution is already a basic finding in REM sleep physiology.
Candidate labs / funders
Isabelle Arnulf，参与梦中实时交流研究的睡眠神经学者。; Delphine Oudiette，参与梦中实时交流研究的认知神经科学家。[研究及作者](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2021.01.026)
Specificity of Seth's formulation
Under normal conditions this is consistent with known physiology and offers no unique predictions; if it insisted that all dream activities produce no actual movements, it would be refuted by eye movements, sleep talking, and dream enactment behaviors.
Note
'Supported' applies only to 'dream running and the like is usually not fully executed'; it does not imply that experience is independent of brain and body, nor does it equate all dreams with REM sleep.
Evidence (2, DOI-verified via Crossref)
  • Neural Control of REM Sleep and Motor Atonia: Current Perspectives — Ramalingam Vetrivelan、Sathyajit S. Bandaru (2023), Current Neurology and Neuroscience Reports
    REM期肌张力抑制机制支持梦中运动通常不转化为完整身体动作，但存在抽动及REM睡眠行为障碍等例外。[论文](https://doi.org/10.1007/s11910-023-01322-x)
  • Real-time dialogue between experimenters and dreamers during REM sleep — Karen R. Konkoly、Kristoffer Appel、Emma Chabani 等 (2021), Current Biology
    四个实验室证明部分梦者能通过眼动和面肌信号回答问题，说明梦中体验与外显动作部分解耦，却未完全隔绝身体输出。[论文](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2021.01.026)

Cite: Future Mind Institute, Seth Material Research Agenda, claim dream-state-3, https://www.seth.org.cn/en/research/claims/dream-state-3