Mike's commentary · Seth Speaks, Chapter 5

How Thoughts Form Matter — Coordination Points

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Concepts in this chapter

The "Reading Guide" and "Chapter Highlights" for this chapter were summarized by an AI editor based on the main text below; they are not things Mike said during the lecture. The main text comes from Mike's commentary, and the blockquotes are Seth's original words (the portions Mike read aloud).

Guide

This chapter centers on "how thought forms matter." Seth uses words and language as an analogy, pointing out that objects, like words and sentences, are symbols and media of expression, and that matter is a byproduct unconsciously formed by thoughts and emotions. Thoughts and emotions exist as electromagnetic energy units; when they reach sufficient intensity, they activate secondary points of intersection, and through their energy they accelerate condensation into matter. Intense emotional images become blueprints, and their intensity determines the speed of materialization. Points of intersection are divided into absolute, primary, and secondary; they are neutral, pure energy, and they influence the durability of buildings, health, and plant growth.

Key Points of This Chapter

  • Objects, like words, are symbols; matter is the medium of expression unconsciously formed by thoughts and emotions.
  • Thoughts and emotions exist as electromagnetic energy units; when their intensity is sufficient, they activate secondary points of intersection, accelerating their condensation into matter.
  • Points of intersection are divided into absolute, main, and secondary; they are neutral pure energy, driven by emotional intensity, and they only intensify without distinguishing the nature of what passes through them.
  • Intense emotional images are the blueprints for materialization; their intensity determines the speed of concretization. For those with intense and pessimistic emotions, negative thoughts will quickly become reality.
  • Points of intersection affect the environment: in certain areas, buildings are more durable, health and vitality are stronger, and plants are more luxuriant.

Main Text

Chapter 5 Opening: How Thought Forms Matter

This fifth chapter is one of the most core key points in the entire Seth system. He often says that your beliefs create reality, or that your surrounding environment, the world around you, is created by yourself. So what exactly does this process of creation look like? Many people question this issue. All those who hold a materialist view, or who are scientifically oriented, will attack this point, saying that you are being too idealistic, saying that a thought can become matter—where is the theoretical basis for that? How exactly can it become matter? Can you show me how to turn a thought into matter?

So this chapter is the core point. Seth does not evade it at all. None of his questions are, like some other theories or doctrines, pushed off onto an omnipotent God, or pointed toward something mysterious and obscure. He is not like that. He explains every question clearly and distinctly for you. He uses every method he possibly can—of course there are some things he cannot explain either; indeed, things that exceed dimensionality, that exceed space above three dimensions, many things are truly difficult to explain—but he is trying his utmost to explain them to us, and this starting point is different. It is not like some disciplines that are deliberately obscure, or that perhaps could not explain things clearly due to the limitations of their era.

The Original Meaning of Coordination Points

If you want to study the Seth material systematically or professionally, it is best to read the Chinese and English side by side. Just as I am doing here, the Chinese is on the left side of the screen and the English is on the right, or you can switch them around. The latest iPads all have a split-screen function; phones do not seem to support split-screen because the screen is too small. Computers seem to have a split-screen function as well. Start by using split-screen and reading both sides together. This is one of the ways you should study.

Why read the English? At some crucial points, such as in this chapter, if you want to study them in depth and get them clear, it is best to look at the English. This is because the Chinese translation uses a lot of free translation. For example, take the first term, "coordination points"—thought forms matter, and then a dash here gives special emphasis to coordination points—so we know that coordination points are very important in this process. But you may be misled or guided by the meaning of the three Chinese characters used to translate "coordination points."

Why did the translator, Teacher Wang Chi-Ching1, translate it this way at the time? Because this point is where two realities overlap. Two dimensional spaces have this kind of overlapping area, and at that place of overlap, she calls it an intersection point. It can also be understood as the point where two spacetimes intersect. In fact, the original English uses the term "coordination point." If you use an iPad, you can tap to look it up directly. First, it will tell you that the Chinese translation of the word means "coordinative," and then there are English definitions below. It gives three English definitions in all.

The first is: an organization that brings different units, different elements, together into a complex body or an activity so that they can work effectively together. This is called coordination. It mainly concerns bodily coordination, as when we say that someone is not very coordinated, that their walking is uncoordinated and their movements are uncoordinated. This means there may be something wrong with their body. Normally, everything is coordinated.

The second English meaning: being able to use different parts of the body and bring them together effectively, very smoothly, and fluidly. This is also called coordination. This is actually used frequently at work. For example, in our real estate work, there is a position called TC. TC stands for Transaction Coordination2. When you complete a real estate transaction, there is still a series of tasks to do afterward. The entire real estate transaction process in the United States has 18 steps3 to complete and involves dozens of documents and many departments—developers, builders, design centers, banks, lending departments, insurance, and a series of tasks involving the government, including communication with both the buyer and the seller. This work is very complicated and tedious, so it requires a TC to complete it. In many places, such as within the United Nations, there are all kinds of coordinators, and there are coordinators in government as well. Especially in our current efforts to prevent and combat the epidemic, this kind of coordination between departments is needed. So coordination refers to the work of coordinating different departments, different units, or different organizations.

The third meaning of coordination refers to the bond that brings atoms together in the process of forming molecules. The chemical bonds in chemistry connect atoms to one another—for example, a water molecule consists of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, with the molecular formula H2O4—how do the atoms combine? What kind of bond holds them together? Bonds between atoms like these are also generally described using the word "coordination."

So through this, you can learn the meaning of the word itself. The original English meaning of what is translated here as "intersection points" refers to these coordination points, and it also has a double meaning. Seth chooses his words very carefully. Why does he use this word? He actually wants to tell you how matter forms. Of course, he tells you it is formed from EE units, from electromagnetic units, but let us leave that aside for now. First, what he is telling you is how your atoms form molecules—you cannot see atoms, but we can see large molecules, and still larger groups of molecules are all visible to the naked eye. The word "coordination" that he uses when speaking of atoms forming molecules actually hints at how your material world is put together. For the mental world or the world of thought becoming the material world, he uses the same word, just as in the process of atoms forming molecules. There is meaning within this word, and it also implies bringing different things together and coordinating them.

Starting from Words and Symbols

Let us return to the main text itself. Seth begins:

As you read the words on this page, you realize that the information you are receiving is not an attribute of the words themselves.

You see, right now you are looking at a physical book, and the content you receive is not the words themselves -- the printed words do not contain the information. The words themselves are symbols; they convey the information. If you take each word on its own, it has no meaning. When you put them together, they represent meaning, so it is a conveyance.

If the information is not on the page, then where is the information that is being conveyed?

Take a copy of Dream of the Red Chamber. The characters Jia Baoyu and Lin Daiyu are vividly portrayed, and images even form in your mind. Where does that sense of imagery, that sense of scene within the novel, come from? It is not in the printed words. Where is it? He asks this question.

The same question also applies when you talk with other people.

You listen to me speaking, and I speak the words aloud. If the meaning is not in each word itself, but in something behind the language, then where is it? You actually use words to convey information, emotions, or thoughts. You actually use words to express information, emotions, and thoughts, and this is perfectly normal. But clearly, thoughts and emotions are not the same thing as words. For example, when we read a love poem, a very beautiful poem, we do not think the poem itself has emotions, but we know the poem itself carries emotion with it. Emotion is emotion, words are words, but it is carried by them.

The words on the page are symbols, and you have agreed upon certain meanings connected with them.

When we see the character for "person," it represents something; when we see "cat," it represents something. When you say the two words "problem," we accept the meaning behind them, but the two words "problem" must be combined with context. If you just say those two words alone, you still do not know what he is trying to say.

Without a second thought, we take it for granted that symbols are not reality, and that words are not the information and thoughts they attempt to convey.

When I read in a book that there is a mountain in the distance described in some way, that is only words, but do you not already have an image of a mountain in your mind? That real mountain, and the mountain in the words, are not the same thing.

Then he says:

Objects are also symbols, like words, conveying the meaning of a reality.

Our words convey a reality. When we say "mountain," we mean that mountain in the distance; that mountain is a reality. But we use the symbol of the word to represent it, and such a symbol represents the mountain. The same is true in English: when we say "mountain," it refers to the mountain, and that is how we have defined the symbol as representing reality and conveying the meaning of reality. The actual information is not within the object, just as thought is not within the words.

He gives this example to say: when we see the thing called a mountain, it is also a symbol. The inner reality of the mountain itself is not, as you think, on the mountain or inside the mountain. The mountain is only a symbol; its true inner content is not on that thing, just as the mountain is not on the word "mountain." Is that a bit convoluted? It is a bit convoluted. Think it over carefully a couple more times and you will understand.

Words are a method of expression, and in the same way physical objects are another medium of expression.

Physical objects refer to the material world. Our material world is also another medium of expression, by the same principle.

But when you are accustomed to expressing your concepts directly through language... you can hear yourself speak them.

When we open our mouths and speak, we can hear ourselves. You can feel the muscles in your throat moving, your mouth moving, your vocal cords moving, your tongue moving as well. But if you have awareness, you can perceive the many reactions within your own body, those activities that accompany the expression of your speech. When we say a sentence, there are still many emotional reactions in your body, many coordinated bodily responses, not just your throat moving, not just your vocal cords moving, not just your lungs moving, not just your mouth moving. Your entire body is moving. So sometimes when you call someone on the phone, the other person can tell right away whether you just woke up, whether you are eating, whether you are out shopping -- they can tell what you are doing just by listening. Although there is no essential difference in the language and the sound, the body's reactions can reflect the state of your entire body at that moment.

Objects are the result of another kind of expression.

We know that emotion is a result of linguistic expression. When we see certain letters or written words, our eyes fill with tears, and we may even cry; when we see certain things, we may fly into a rage, pound the table, and bristle with fury. The words themselves carry no emotion, but after you read them, the emotion is conveyed to you. Objects are the expression of another kind of thing -- what kind of thing, we will talk about shortly.

You indeed create them as you create words, and not only by means of your hands or through manufacturing processes.

Just like speaking, you naturally create the material world around you. Here he emphasizes: the process of creation is not by means of the hands, or through some manufacturing procedure, or achieved through craft. Not only by means of the hands -- remember the word "only." Sometimes you do use your hands, but not only your hands.

Matter is a natural byproduct of your human evolution, just as words are.

The material world, our three-dimensional world, the environment we live in around us, is something that naturally comes about in the course of human evolution, just as our language naturally came about in the course of human evolution. The principle of how it comes about is the same: a byproduct of evolution.

The Gaps in Language

But examine your knowledge of your own speech.

You think that because you speak every day, you know your language very well, you understand literature and words. But the moment you reflect on it, you will find problems:

Although you hear the words and recognize their appropriateness, although they also come in many ways close to the feeling you wish to express.

There is a key phrase here -- "in many ways somewhat close." Your language comes close to the feeling you wish to express, but it is not one hundred percent. Sometimes we often say "I just can't express this," "my language is pale" -- we often have this feeling. It is not a figure of speech; it is real. Your language sometimes really is pale. You can only express a very small part; you cannot fully express your feeling. So here it uses "in many ways somewhat close" -- how close depends on your ability to express yourself. Why are some writers and some poets so good? Because their level of expression is high, they can express their own feelings to a great degree, and so they become literary figures, artists, poets. But most people's ability to express their own feelings is relatively simple, their level is average, so you are an ordinary person, not a literary figure.

Yet they are not your feeling.

The words you speak are no longer that feeling of yours. Between your thought and your expression of it, there are bound to be some gaps. What you think and what comes out of your mouth cannot possibly be one hundred percent the same; you cannot express one hundred percent of your thought through language.

When you realize that as you begin a sentence you yourself do not know how you will end it, or even how you form the words, the familiarity of language begins to disappear.

When we chat with friends, or when I am explaining this to you right now, actually when I first start speaking, I do not know specifically what I am going to say. I have not written this out as a speech or thought it into an outline. When I open my mouth to say this sentence, I do not know exactly what I am going to say, or how I will end this talk -- I do not know. But as long as you start speaking, it will naturally flow along, following your thought -- the thought keeps thinking, and the language keeps following, like a stream of consciousness, and the language comes out along with it.

Many people ask why. If you have trouble understanding this, you can learn a foreign language. When you learn a foreign language, you can fully understand how large the gap is between language and your consciousness. When you use your mother tongue to express ideas, it feels relatively natural, relatively close; when you use another foreign language -- whether Spanish, French, English, Japanese, German, or Korean -- as long as it is not your mother tongue, you will find that it is often not quite apt, that it cannot express your meaning very well.

This is also a digression: many cross-national marriages, two people from completely different countries and cultural backgrounds, start out very sweet, but in the end there will still be some problems, and one reason is this. One person can never express his thoughts to a very great degree, because he is using another language. When using a foreign language, the barrier between the two sides, this gap, will grow larger and larger, and this is natural. Even when you express yourself in your mother tongue, there are still problems.

You do not consciously know how you manipulate such an immense pyramid of symbols.

You do not know how you use these several thousand Chinese characters to form tens of thousands of words5. You do not say to yourself, I am recalling something from memory, using my brain's memory system, then I organize language, through grammar, through my thoughts I construct a logic, then through logic I express it, and then I arrange the words into it -- it is not like that at all. You have no idea how language is actually manipulated by you, how from among them you select the words you need to express a certain idea. You cannot investigate this too deeply; once you do, you... Of course many linguists have been studying this, and many people studying brain science have also been studying it. They seem to have found some methods, but as to how it is actually done, they do not know either.

For that matter, you do not know how you think.

You want to express your idea; first you have an idea, then you use language to express it. As for the matter of the idea itself, you do not know how you think. You do not know how your thought comes, and you do not know where your thought comes from. This matter cannot be investigated too deeply; the more deeply you investigate, the more confused you become.

You do not know how you translate the symbols on this page into thoughts, and then store them, or make them your own.

In other words, we read a book, we read the Seth material, we read Seth Speaks, and the knowledge we learn becomes yours. You can turn around and tell your friends about it; you can make it your own thing. Symbols are translated into thoughts, and the thoughts become yours, and you can use them. But you do not know this process; you do not know how it is formed.

Since at the level of consciousness the structure of normal language is so little known to you, it is not surprising that you are unaware of the more complex work you also do.

When we read a Seth book, when you come to a dash, skip over it first, finish reading the sentence, and then go back and read what is inside the dashes -- otherwise sometimes your brain cannot keep up, because what he says is relatively complex. Since you do not even know how language and words coordinate and work, it is also quite normal that you are unaware when you do another kind of complex work. What is this work? He gives an example:

As, for example, the constant creation of your physical environment as a method of communication and expression.

You use language to express an idea of yours, and at the same time you are also creating your physical environment, also as a method of expression and communication. You are doing the same kind of thing, but you are not aware of it, and this is not surprising.

Only from this viewpoint can the true nature of physical matter be understood.

Only by starting from this angle can you know what the true nature of physical matter is. Matter is a kind of expression of yours, just as language is your expression.

Only when you understand the nature of this constant translation of thoughts and desires -- not into words, but into physical objects -- can you realize that you truly stand beyond circumstance, time, and environment.

Thoughts and desires did not become words, did not become language, but became physical objects. Only when you understand this can you realize that you transcend all kinds of circumstances, time, and environment. Because these are all created by you, just as you can transcend language and transcend words, you can also transcend your environment. This is a very simple principle, and again it is because they are all created by you, aren't they? They are all a kind of expression of yours.

Seth's Delight

Then at this point he wanted to add a note, Seth smiled -- Rob recorded all these details. At this point Rob asked Seth: What are you so pleased about? Seth said:

I am pleased that this chapter began well.

Why did it begin well?

Because I think I have found an analogy, a true analogy that can free the reader from the artificial bondage of having a physical image. When the reader regards the physical image as one of his own expressions, he will then realize his own creativity.

In this earlier chapter, he said he himself began well, and he was secretly pleased with himself, very happy. Just like when a teacher is lecturing and thinks of a very good analogy or example, the teacher is also very happy. The analogy he used was one we are all familiar with -- the words and language in the book you are holding in your hands, the book the reader is reading -- bringing it into the theme he wanted to discuss: the form in which your thoughts and desires are expressed is a kind of matter, expressed into matter, or an event, or a situation.

Your thoughts and desires may be a situation, may be an occurrence. They are all an expression of your thoughts and desires, just as expressing your thoughts into words is the same. You create your thoughts into a literary work, or something written; in your daily life, what do you create out of your thoughts and desires? It is the environment around you. The environment around you is formed by this, only you are not aware of it, just as you are not aware of how you use language and words -- it is the same principle.

The Transmission of Images

That was just a metaphor and an image he used earlier. It does not mean that once we have studied this we will understand it -- no, he will explain it in detail later. This time Jane said something: when Seth was speaking, Jane had a great many images. Jane said Seth had this chapter well in mind -- although this chapter is one of the more difficult ones -- he vividly displayed his objects to her using the concept of the method of communication, yet she was unable to describe the images she saw.

In what way did he give Jane the concept of "objects as your method of communication and expression"? It was in the form of images, vividly displayed to her. He displayed a concept to her vividly, rather than giving it to her in words, nor in language. On Seth's level, for many concepts and many thoughts, he transmits them through images. This was already discussed in Chapter 3, when he said that the communication between us is through telepathy. What telepathy senses is not words -- it is not that we are telepathic with each other and then you say one thing and I say another, not sensing each other in the mind like that. He said our telepathy operates through images.

Actually, we humans also have this ability, and each of us is the same. It is not that only Seth has this ability or that only higher dimensions have it -- we ourselves are an existence of a higher dimension, and we have this ability. He gave her a great many images vividly, but Jane could not describe them, she could not put them into words. Indeed, when a concept was given to her in that way, she could not say it.

He will later mention that if Jane had perhaps been someone with a background in physics or in science and engineering, she might have had a better way to express it. But because Jane herself was a literary young woman, a poet, a novelist, she lacked some of the necessary scientific background, so it was very difficult for her to express, in appropriate language and logic, the way Seth transmitted things to her in her mind through images. But this did not affect her -- Seth would use his mouth to transmit the language Seth had organized.

Then Jane noticed here that she had left the place where she was sitting and gone over to the bookshelf while speaking, and she had a kind of out-of-body feeling. But in this out-of-body feeling she did not see herself sitting in the rocking chair, so she did not know what this feeling was -- it was like a memory. But she was very excited; she felt very excited that she could suddenly go out of body while transmitting the material. These are all minor details -- let us not bother with them. Now let us discuss Seth's core content.

Unconscious Creation

Seth says:

It is easy now to understand that you translate feelings into words, or bodily expressions, or facial expressions and gestures, but it is not so easy to understand that—just as feelings are translated into symbols, and symbols become words—you also form your physical body just as effortlessly and unconsciously.

You can easily turn your feelings into words, or a facial expression, a movement, a gesture, but you do not know why, nor do you understand the mechanism in between. In the same way, you also form your physical body. The body you have now is formed by you; this is one of your own great creations. But likewise, you are unconscious of it—you do not know how you formed it, your body—yet it is indeed you who formed it.

Just as when you speak, certain expressions and bodily movements naturally come out, and you do not know it. We have all seen TV dramas or American shows where they read your thoughts through your body—it is called body language. They watch your movements, see whether you are lying, see what emotions you have, see what psychological activity is going on. Because your unconscious movements carry out a great deal of information, and they can interpret it and understand you through that.

You have surely heard the saying that "the environment represents a given individual's personality."

If his environment is a mess, then the psychology of his life is also a mess; if the environment he lives in is a complete mess, that proves this person's state of life is also a complete mess. We actually say this. Then he tells you:

This is not a symbolic statement, but an actual truth.

It really is like this. Why? Because this environment is created by this person; it is all his creation. Whatever his inner state is like, the environment he creates is like that. When you understand this point, you must never complain about your environment, that the environment is so bad—it is all created by you, and this bad environment is also created by you.

The words on a page have only the reality of ink and paper. The information they convey is invisible.

Once printed, all that remains is paper and ink. The information they convey is not in the ink or on the paper; you cannot see it. As an object, the book itself is only paper and ink; it is a vehicle for the information. From a physical standpoint, the book itself contains no information at all, nor any thought—it is just dozens or hundreds of pages of paper plus some ink. If you look at it from a physical standpoint, that is all it is: no information, no data, no thought. But actually it is not that; we know a book conveys information and data. What we are reading now is Seth's material, is it not? Decades later, people are still reading his material.

You might argue that this book was not created by me. What he actually wants to say is this: this book was actually created by you. You must always understand that you create your environment—does your environment not include the book you are holding in your hand? Does it not include the video of mine you are watching right now? All of this is created by you. You will say, no, I clicked the link and pressed play, and only then did your video appear; how could it appear if I did not click it? Just as he says, you will also argue that this book was surely bought by me at a bookstore, or delivered to my home by a courier, or borrowed from a library—how could it possibly be created by me? Surely it was printed by the workers at the printing plant. He says that is what you mean; you will certainly understand it that way, and that is perfectly normal.

But before we are through with this book, you will understand... basically speaking, each of you creates the book you hold in your hands, and your entire physical environment emerges from your inner selves just as naturally as language emerges from your mouths. And just as a person forms his own breath, so too does he unconsciously and automatically form objects.

This passage is very long. He uses the meaning of this book to emphasize one more point. Here he uses "basically"—he is not speaking absolutely. Why "basically"? This matter has many ambiguities; we will not expand on it now. His wording is very precise; he says "basically" rather than speaking absolutely. You must remember: unconsciously and automatically forming objects—this is quite wondrous.

Many people say the environment around me was not created by me; how could I have created the environment? I have not created anything. He tells you: it is created unconsciously and automatically.

Session 524: Coordination Points

Seth said, "Good evening, Seth." Then Rob said, "Good evening, Seth." He said, "Now write our book."

Session 524

The peculiar, specific appearance of your physical world depends upon your existence, and upon your focusing within it.

What he means by this is that the existence of this strange, specific, endlessly varied, bizarre, and dazzling world of ours comes about because of our existence -- the existence of human beings -- and because we focus our attention within it.

For example, to consciousnesses that do not exist within it, the physical universe does not contain solid objects of width and depth.

Many people do not understand what this passage means. He says "consciousnesses that do not exist within it" -- consciousness in quotation marks, and this "consciousness" is not only human consciousness, but also other consciousnesses, the consciousness of matter. What he means is that the physical universe, our physical universe, does not contain solid objects with depth and width. That is to say, from the perspective of the consciousness of the essence of matter, this consciousness does not exist within the object. What does "within it" refer to? The object. This consciousness is not inside the object -- the object is produced by consciousness, not the other way around, with consciousness inside the object. Therefore, regarding this object, you must understand that consciousness is not within it; consciousness is what produces it. So for this consciousness, the object is not solid, nor does it have depth or width.

You should understand this passage in the following way:

There are other kinds of consciousness coexisting in the same space that your world inhabits.

There are also other kinds of consciousness -- this consciousness is not only our one kind of consciousness; there are other kinds, consciousnesses that are not human, nor the consciousness of other matter, but many more kinds of consciousness. However many kinds of consciousness exist in our physical world, the world contains more than that -- far, far more.

These other kinds of consciousness coexist in the same "space" that our world inhabits -- "space" is in quotation marks. "Space" does not exist; it is only assumed for the sake of understanding through our three-dimensional space, as if it were in the same space. Because this three-dimensional, four-dimensional, multi-dimensional space -- the dimensions themselves do not exist; they are only a definition made by us humans. But we still have to use dimensions to understand it, just like learning: you have to start from one plus one in elementary school and keep studying upward, and when you reach the higher levels, there is actually no concept of one plus one at all; it is all concepts of integrals, differentials, algebra plus differentials, and so on. These things are all progressive, and you have to learn them. So regarding dimensional space, at the beginning it is for the sake of your understanding. Do not bring up three dimensions or four dimensions; in fact there are no dimensions at all. But if you do not bring them up, you cannot understand either.

They do not perceive your objects.

That is, those other consciousnesses cannot sense our objects. We humans can sense objects, but other kinds of consciousness cannot sense our objects, because:

Their reality is composed of different camouflage structures.

That is, their reality, their world, is composed of different camouflage structures, different from our structures, and therefore they cannot sense the reality of our physical world.

Generally speaking, they do not perceive you either.

He is always precise in his wording. "Generally speaking" -- he does not speak in absolutes. But at times they can also perceive our existence.

However, this is a general statement, because your realities can be said to coincide, and they do coincide.

This is a general statement, and you must remember it, because our reality and their reality -- as he just said, the camouflage structures of your realities are all different, but within this three-dimensional space that we assume, they do overlap. So here he says "can be said to coincide, and they do coincide," emphasizing it. The title of this chapter, translated as "coordination points," also takes this meaning -- it is the place where two realities intersect.

These points are not recognized.

We have not recognized these points; generally we cannot see them.

But they are points of what you could call double reality.

This point is very interesting; it is a double reality -- both within our physical reality and within the reality formed by other consciousnesses with those other camouflage structures. It is at the place where two realities intersect, called a point of double reality.

They contain great energy potential.

This is what we need to learn: these coordination points contain great energy potential.

They are, indeed, coordination points where realities merge.

You see, he says it directly: two different realities -- for example, our physical reality and a nonphysical reality. Let us suppose, for the sake of discussion, a four-dimensional space or a five-dimensional space; within their space, within their reality, and within our three-dimensional world, the point in between where they intersect and merge -- he emphasizes that this is exactly what it is, a coordination point. This point has enormous potential.

Mathematically speaking, pure main coordination points are sources of astonishing energy.

Mathematically speaking -- if we use actual formulas to derive it, we can derive it: these pure coordination points, the main coordination points, are astonishing sources of energy. And the subordinate coordination points -- the number of subordinate coordination points is very numerous. Here you must remember, this is mathematical. Of course there are also absolute coordination points, which he will talk about later, and there are four absolute coordination points.

What do these four absolute coordination points mean? They are where all realities intersect. All of this three-dimensional world, four-dimensional world, five-dimensional world -- hypothetically speaking, and of course I am only giving examples, it is not only this -- that is, our worlds of different dimensions, different realities, different worlds, intersect at those four points. These points are called absolute coordination points, and there are four of them. On our Earth there are four.

These coordination points also serve as channels through which energy flows, and as warps or invisible paths from one reality to another.

This is what we often talk about in science fiction -- time travel, wormholes, passing from this point to that point, and so on; that is the meaning. The meaning of "warp" is, for example, Seth and us -- Seth's reality and our reality are different. He communicates through Jane -- earlier it was explained that they communicate through a psychic warp, and here again a warp is used for communication. Between different realities there are warps, and they communicate with each other.

In your terms, they are also transformers, supplying much of the generative energy by which creation is continued.

They supply much of the generative energy; they are the catalyst, the prime mover behind the energy, the dynamic composition behind each reality. Because they are coordination points, absolute coordination points.

So now we know there are several kinds of coordination points: the first kind is called absolute coordination points; the second kind is called main coordination points, which have astonishing energy; and the third kind is subordinate coordination points, which are very numerous.

Your space is filled with these subordinate points.

That is, our space has many of these subordinate coordination points. You will understand later that this is very important when you transform thoughts and emotions into matter. When thoughts and emotions reach a certain intensity, they automatically attract the power of these subordinate points -- when your emotions and thoughts reach a certain intensity, they will attract the power of these subordinate points.

They are therefore highly charged, and in one respect, amplified.

Amplified in what way? Amplified in your thoughts and your emotions. That is, in another respect they are amplified, meaning your emotions and feelings are charged and intensified. This is also very normal; many times we find that our emotions at a certain point begin as only a very small emotion, but this emotion grows larger and larger, until later it reaches a point where it cannot be controlled -- who is working behind you all along? It is this energy; it keeps charging you and amplifying you.

These points impinge upon what you call time and space.

What points? The subordinate points. These subordinate coordination points impinge upon what we call time and space.

Therefore, in your terms, there are certain points in time and space that are more conductive than others.

Why does he always speak this way? Because his perspective is different. Seth looks at things from a higher-dimensional perspective, while we humans look at things from the three-dimensional world. In order to help us understand, he often says "from your perspective" or "in your terms" -- when he says this, it means he is looking at the issue from the perspective of the human three-dimensional world. Because from his perspective, the issue is completely different.

It is like how some objects in our space conduct electricity and some do not. We know that metals conduct electricity, while plastic and rubber do not. He uses this as an example to say that certain points in space, such as subordinate coordination points, are more conductive than other points in space. It is not electrical conductivity, but greater conductivity.

Concepts and objects will be more highly charged.

That is, our thoughts and the matter formed by our thoughts will be more highly charged, charged faster, more greatly, and more fully than elsewhere.

This means that buildings will be more durable. Within your terms, concepts and form will be united somewhat more permanently. For example, he says the pyramids are a very good example.

So now we know that the pyramids are situated on a subordinate coordination point, and buildings on this coordination point are more lasting and more permanent than buildings in other places; they have lasted for several thousand years. Whether three thousand, four thousand, or five thousand years, compared with ordinary buildings -- never mind ordinary buildings, even the reinforced concrete houses we live in now basically become unsound after about a hundred years. The concrete and structure inside will age; not only will the concrete age, but the steel reinforcement inside will also age. After more than a hundred years the quality of the whole building will decline, and after a few hundred more years it will be gone, collapsing entirely like rubble. But the pyramids can last for several thousand years, and this is the example he uses to explain it.

These coordination points -- absolute, main, and subordinate -- represent accumulations or traces of pure energy.

Here you can remember: accumulations of pure energy. Why does he use "pure energy" here? It means that this energy itself is neutral, without good or bad, positive or negative, good or evil, and therefore it is called pure energy.

If you think of them in terms of size, they are extremely small.

If you insist on imagining them using the human three-dimensional world, they are extremely tiny. How tiny?

Smaller than any particle of which your scientists know.

It is like the initial point at the very beginning of the Big Bang that we often talk about; how small was that point? Scientists now calculate through scientific estimation that it was about 10 to the power of negative 35 meters6, roughly on that scale, which is unimaginable. How unimaginable? For example, what is the scale of the atomic nucleus that we observe? It is 10 to the power of negative 15 to negative 167. And the point at the beginning of the Big Bang was the size of the Planck length8; you can look it up, a point around 10 to the negative 30-something power, around negative 35.

So Seth says, whether absolute coordination points or mainly these points, if we look at them from the perspective of this physical world, they are extremely tiny points, smaller than any particle known to humanity, and they are composed of pure energy.

But this energy must nevertheless be activated. Until then it is dormant, and it cannot be activated physically.

This is interesting. What he means is that the energy of these coordination points is extremely vast, but the coordination points themselves are extremely tiny in space. These extremely tiny coordination points are normally dormant; you cannot see them at all, and their energy will not activate. What can activate them? He explains later -- it is activated by your emotions, your feelings, and your thoughts.

It definitely cannot be activated physically -- that is, you definitely cannot use material things like nuclear fusion or nuclear fission to activate it, or particle colliders smashing particles together to release boundless energy -- this purely material, physical activation cannot activate or stimulate the energy within these coordination points. To put it simply, these higher-dimensional points will not be activated by things from the lower-dimensional material dimension; they can only be activated by things that are likewise higher-dimensional.

Here are some clues that may help your mathematicians.

Seth says that the following will be helpful to you. Helpful in what way?

Around all these points -- even the subordinate ones -- there are extremely minute fluctuations of gravity.

They alter our gravitational field. Do you know what it takes to alter our gravitational field? How much matter and energy would that require? But they can alter it. These minute changes should now be detectable with our current instruments -- scientists' measurements of gravitational fields are already extremely sensitive, capable of detecting changes in gravitational fields down to 10 to the power of however many. So if our scientists follow this direction of discovery, we will be able to discover these coordination points: wherever the gravitational field changes, that place is certainly a coordination point.

Within this range, all so-called physical laws have a somewhat wavering effect.

So-called physical laws -- these are humanity's physical laws -- all have a somewhat wavering effect. What place does this remind you of? Does not the Bermuda Triangle seem very much like this kind of place? In the Bermuda Triangle, when planes fly over, compasses fail, navigation fails, and many planes that reached that place reappear decades later after time travel, and so on. Could many of the legends about the Bermuda Triangle be related to this? So we know that our physical laws, in those places, waver to some degree.

Within the invisible energy structure that forms all realities and phenomena, the subordinate points also in some way act as supports, as structural reinforcements.

To put this in plain language, within these physical and nonphysical worlds formed by energy activated through your emotions, no matter which reality, these coordination points, these subordinate coordination points and main coordination points, are a kind of structural support for that reality. Those of us who have studied physics, structural engineering, or architecture know that when you build something, it has support points, like a net -- when the headrope is raised, the mesh opens; you always have a core, and there must be places of support. So these places of support are these points, which can serve as structural reinforcement. Without these points, the structure would be unstable and insecure; these points are needed for structural reinforcement.

They are accumulations or traces of pure energy, but there is indeed a great difference in the amount of energy available between different subordinate points, and between main points and absolute points.

Although they are all pure energy, the amount of their energy can differ greatly -- and how great the difference is, it is very great. As for this, we will skip their conversation in between.

These are therefore concentrated points of energy, the subordinate points being far more common.

That is, in our ordinary experience we can only come into contact with subordinate points; you cannot even find where the main points and absolute points are. The subordinate points are far more common, and practically speaking they affect your daily affairs -- do not think about seeking out those main coordination points and absolute coordination points; these subordinate coordination points are sufficient, and they can influence your daily life and daily affairs.

It would be better to build houses or structures in those places than in other places. At these points, health and vitality are strengthened. All other conditions being equal, plants will grow more luxuriantly, and it seems that all favorable conditions are gathered in these places.

Do you see? So many people ask me: does feng shui actually make sense? Is feng shui correct? Does it have an effect? I tell you, feng shui does make sense, and it does have an effect. It is not superstition, nor is it some kind of magical sorcery or mysticism; it is not. Seth has already explained it to you very thoroughly in one sentence here -- in these places, health and vitality are strengthened, and all favorable conditions are gathered in these places.

So this means that when many people ask whether they should consider feng shui when buying a house, of course they should consider feng shui; this is perfectly normal. You may not believe it, but whether it exists or not has nothing to do with whether you believe it.

Some people can intuitively sense these kinds of areas; some people have this ability. The moment they walk into a certain place, they can tell whether it is good or not, whether it feels smooth or not, whether it is comfortable or not. In ancient times there were many people who specialized in reading feng shui, and today there are many feng shui masters. But many people just hold a compass and turn it this way and that, then lay out all kinds of bagua and five elements for you, calculating them together with your eight characters, your four pillars and eight characters -- that is one kind of method. But people with real ability can sense it the moment they walk in; they can sense it intuitively, and they do not need those tools. In ancient times, when building temples, and even when selecting imperial palaces and imperial tombs, including when wealthy people in ancient times selected burial sites, they would find someone to look at it, and these people could often tell at a glance whether the feng shui was good or not.

They occur within certain angles caused by the coordination points.

These areas are not points; everyone must understand this and not get it wrong -- many people ask, should I just stand on this coordination point and that will be enough? No. Coordination points are so small they cannot be any smaller, and in physical space it is very difficult to find their existence. The areas he refers to are certain angles formed by these coordination points. The angles formed by the coordination points, not the points themselves. For example, between two coordination points or three coordination points, within certain angles of the coordination points, in the distribution of this energy field, the region covered by this angle is what we call a good feng shui location. It is not the point itself; you must remember, it is certain angles formed by these points. For example, the middle of three coordination points is certainly an excellent feng shui location.

The points themselves are not physical in your terms, though they are quite real.

That is, they are real, but not material. You cannot see them, although they can be derived mathematically -- that is, the set of feng shui methods; in ancient times there was a set of methods for deriving them.

But they are felt as intensified energy.

In other words, many times when you are buying a house, or when you are looking at a site, when you arrive at that place, you can feel whether you and the house are compatible. You look at the house and everything feels comfortable, and looking at it makes you feel happy, or the moment you see the house you feel an affinity with it -- these houses themselves have an affinity with you. In other words, that energy coordination point can be perceived by you, felt intuitively.

In a certain room, plants will grow better in a particular area than in other areas, provided that necessary conditions such as light are present in both areas.

That is, if it is not affected by light -- because light is very important in a room -- assuming the light is the same, plants in a certain small room will still grow better in a particular area than in other areas.

All of your space is permeated by these coordination points, so that certain invisible angles are formed.

So these certain invisible angles are formed. What he refers to here are these environments more suitable for living, environments suitable for plant growth -- and of course also suitable for human growth.

This is a highly simplified statement, but certain angles are more peripheral than others, and less favorable in all conditions of growth and activity.

Everyone has had this kind of example, this kind of feeling before. For instance, some people raise flowers at home, and no matter what flowers they raise, they always die; no plant can survive. Of course, apart from the reason of care, very often this environment is truly not very suitable for life, and before long the person will also fall ill; this is normal. If the plants in a place grow very luxuriantly and are lush and green, then that environment is also very suitable for people to live in.

Some angles are more peripheral, more outward, and some angles are more inward, and the inward angles are better. Here he uses quotation marks, "peripheral" and "inward" -- this is not the inward or outward as we consider it in physical space, in the three-dimensional world; it is considered from a higher dimension.

In speaking of these angles, we regard them as three-dimensional, though many of them are multidimensional.

When we speak of these angles, they are certainly in three-dimensional space, in three-dimensional terms, although many of them are multidimensional. Because these coordination points themselves are coordination points of multiple realities, they are not only of the three-dimensional world; they are themselves multidimensional, and therefore the angles formed by the coordination points are also multidimensional angles, not single-dimensional, three-dimensional angles.

Since the nature of these angles is not the subject of this book, I cannot explain them thoroughly here.

He says it is impossible to tell you how these angles are calculated, or how to find these coordination points -- that is not what this book is about; this is not a book on science and technology.

The effects of these points seem stronger at certain times than at others, although these differences have nothing to do with the nature of the coordination points or the nature of time.

These points also change over time; some points are stronger in certain periods than in others. Does this mean that if a point is good, it is always good? No, it also changes over time. But he says this change over time -- you see, he returns again to our three-dimensional world's time -- this change has nothing to do with the nature of time or the nature of the coordination points.

The concentrated energy points are activated by emotional intensities within your normal range.

He just said that the coordination point is a pure energy, and this energy point needs to be activated before it can take effect; it is inherently dormant. What activates it? Emotional intensity within our normal range activates it. He says it very specifically -- that is, our ordinary, normal-range emotional intensity, our joy, anger, sorrow, happiness, the seven emotions and six desires; these intensities can activate these energy points.

This point is crucial; remember it: do not fantasize that some machine or instrument is needed to activate it; it is not needed. Nor do you need to meditate and ascend to a higher level, to a higher state, before you can use these energy points -- I must open so many chakras and enter so many states before I can mobilize it -- not needed. He says it very simply: your normal emotional intensity can activate it.

Whether or not you know it, your emotions or feelings activate these points.

He emphasizes it again: your emotions and feelings will activate them. Remember, the "emotions and feelings" here is also a matter of translation. The correct understanding should be emotions and feelings; he uses the two words "emotion" and "feeling." Emotion is emotion, and feeling is feeling. You could also render feeling as sensation, but I think what he is talking about here is emotion and feeling, and it has nothing to do with sensation. It is your feelings that activate them, and emotion is also a kind of feeling.

Therefore, more energy will be added to the original thought or emotion, and its projection into matter will be accelerated.

After you activate it, did you not originally have a feeling and an emotion? This additional energy will be added in, added to your original thought and emotion, strengthening them, and accelerating their projection into matter.

This applies regardless of the nature of the emotion; only its intensity is involved here.

Here it does not distinguish between good and bad emotions. It is not that positive emotions, emotions of doing good deeds and aspiring toward goodness, are one thing, while evil emotions, emotions of doing bad deeds, are another -- this has nothing to do with it. In terms of this energy, it does not distinguish good from bad; it only involves intensity. It does not care about the nature of the emotion, only the intensity of the emotion. Therefore, the intensity of the emotion of hating someone and the emotion of loving someone will both materialize, manifesting in a materialized form.

In other words, these points are like hidden, invisible power plants, activated when contacted by any sufficiently intense emotional feeling or thought.

These points are like invisible power plants. Like wireless charging — suppose one day, Apple is now applying for related patents and technologies9, all researching wireless charging. Right now you still need a QI-standard charging pad, you have to place the phone on it to charge, and some phones can even wirelessly charge other phones just by being close together. In the future maybe no contact will be needed at all — you put it in a designated area, say this table itself is an area, and placing the phone anywhere on the table will charge it, or even this room itself is a wireless charging zone, and as long as you bring your phone into this room, all wireless charging devices are charging. This will definitely be realized in the future. You can imagine it like that.

These points are just this kind of invisible power plant. You cannot see it, but when it comes into contact with anything strong enough — here it must be "strong enough," a faint change in your thought is not strong enough, it must have a certain amount of emotion, but he says the normal range is sufficient — this feeling and thought, upon contact with it, will be activated.

These points themselves are of a fairly neutral nature, intensifying whatever activates them.

Remember this: it is a power plant, and a power plant does not distinguish whether you are doing bad things or good things. As long as you connect to its electricity, it can generate power for you. Whether you are printing counterfeit money or real money, you are using this power plant's electricity. This energy itself is neutral; it only intensifies.

Because this material is new, we have proceeded rather slowly.

It refers to the material transmitted through Jane being especially slow, with pauses segment by segment. It says the main reason is that I must transfer it as accurately as possible:

And Ruburt's lack of scientific background necessitates my ingenuity.

Seth also has a headache here. When he transmits material through Jane, later on many, many times he will mention how difficult it is. That is, when Jane lacks a scientific background, transmitting a lot of material becomes very difficult. I think everyone has had this feeling — for example, suppose your girlfriend is a liberal arts major, a literary young woman who grew up reading novels every day, and you try to tell her anything about physics. Just try explaining quantum mechanics to her and see whether she can understand it. You can barely get two sentences out before she says, stop, I don't want to hear it, this is too complicated. In her mode of thinking, it is very hard for her to understand this kind of thing. This is not a matter of good or bad, right or wrong; it is because her knowledge background simply does not have the capacity to understand these things.

So Seth says here that he must use other ways to make her understand. If you explain quantum mechanics in some other way, as a caterpillar turning into a butterfly, or some other story about a rainbow, she may understand it better. But you cannot start explaining quantum mechanics to her with a double-slit experiment — she does not even know what a wave is, wave interference and diffraction, interference fringes; she does not even want to understand. So in this situation, Seth has to turn it into different expressions to explain it.

But what is the benefit of this? The benefit is that this book can be suitable for most people to read. Otherwise, if it had really been written by a physicist, this book might only be read by physicists, and no one else would read it at all. Everything has a good side: it is especially easy to popularize, because what Jane can understand, most people can understand.

Now this is a highly simplified account, in which any consciousness's subjective experience automatically expresses itself in electromagnetic energy units.

See, here he starts getting to the core. He again says this is a highly simplified account, but it is stated very rigorously. Here we need to explain this passage carefully. Any consciousness — remember, any consciousness, not just human consciousness — has a subjective experience, including you right now: your preferences, your beliefs, your sense of right and wrong, your worldview, your values — these are all your subjective experiences. You need to express all your subjective experiences. How are they expressed? Automatically — this is not something you can control — they are automatically expressed in the form of electromagnetic energy.

Here it is translated as electromagnetic energy, but actually it should be an emotional energy unit. At the beginning, when Rob was recording, he kept writing it down as electromagnetic energy, abbreviated with two E's, but now it does not matter what we call it; you just need to understand that it is expressed in units of this kind of energy.

They exist beneath the range of physical matter.

Here he adds quotation marks. Actually it is not a matter of "beneath"; he only uses above and below so that you can understand.

If you prefer, you may call them incipient particles.

Why call them incipient particles? Because they have not yet emerged as objects — they have not yet become a materialized manifestation. These EE units themselves can be understood as the constituent units beneath objects and matter. They are particles even earlier than particles, because they have not yet displayed themselves as objects. When they display themselves as objects, we can see them, and they become atoms, electrons, and other things we can observe. Electrons are already very hard to observe. Atoms, electrons, neutrons, protons, and also quarks, bosons, and so on — many, many microparticles, including photons — we can regard all of these as materialized manifestations. But these EE units exist before materialized manifestation — that is, before all the particles I just mentioned, the EE units already existed. In other words, these EE units compose these materialized manifestations.

Where do these EE units come from? He tells you: they are automatically expressed from the subjective experience of consciousness. As long as this consciousness has subjective experience and wants to express it, it will automatically form EE units, just like the breath a person automatically exhales, the aura a person naturally gives off. Unless this person is dead, as long as they are alive, they will keep emanating this aura outward. So as long as this consciousness exists, consciousness will keep radiating its EE units outward.

They are emanations from various kinds of consciousness, naturally given off.

Here he mentions many key words — various kinds, and here it is also mentioned, not just human consciousness, but various kinds of consciousness. Naturally given off — these key words are all crucial, all things you need to understand. It is not for any reason; it is just naturally given off like this.

They are invisible formations built up in response to any stimulus.

Consciousness reacts to things, and after reacting, it forms these invisible formations.

They very seldom exist in isolation, but are united together in some kind of pattern.

They basically do not exist one by one in isolation; they exist in groups, organized in a certain way.

They change form and pulsation constantly.

That is, they constantly change their form and frequency; they are not singular but continuously changing.

They have a relative permanence, depending upon the intensity behind them.

Their permanence is not the permanence of our physical world. Because there is no concept of time inside it, you should not understand it as something material — how many seconds it survives, how many milliseconds, or how many years, or eternity — you should not understand it that way, because it is not something in this three-dimensional world. So he puts quotation marks around "permanence." But does it have permanence? Of course it does; they are not all the same. But is it appropriate to define it by time? No.

Depending upon the original intensity behind them.

That is, the original intensity of the energy behind the EE units determines their permanence. That is, the intensity behind the original thoughts, emotions, stimuli, and reactions that produced them. What stimulates this consciousness? It is this kind of thought, emotion, stimulus, or the intensity behind this reaction — all of these affect its permanence.

That is the explanation of this passage, and then he continues: "Again, in a highly simplified manner..."

How Thoughts Form Matter: Coordination Points

Under certain conditions, these electromagnetic energy units condense into matter. You see, again it is very simplified -- it cannot be complicated. "Under certain conditions," you see, it is all vague, because it cannot be explained in detail. It can only be simplified and put this way: those electromagnetic units of sufficient intensity automatically set into motion what I call secondary coordination points.

Those of sufficient intensity -- not all electromagnetic units have this capability. The electromagnetic intensity radiated by this consciousness is not always strong enough in every case. When the intensity of some electromagnetic units reaches a sufficient level, they will automatically set into motion the secondary coordination points just mentioned. What is inside a secondary coordination point? There is energy, and it is a neutral energy. It is like building a power plant. It is as if you plug into the socket, you connect to the electricity, and you connect your emotion to the power -- then it begins to perform. As Guo Degang often says, please begin your performance. Now that there is power, the performance begins.

Therefore, in your terms, they accelerate more quickly than units of lesser intensity and are propelled into matter.

This is him speaking from his own perspective. From the human perspective, in our human terms, they accelerate more quickly than units of lesser intensity -- that is, the weaker units. How should we understand this? It means that in this form of low energy, they are accelerated more quickly and propelled into matter, formed into matter.

How should we understand this? This is somewhat like what quantum mechanics says. Let us go back to quantum mechanics, because this is closer to the latest theories in physics. The latest theories hold that this world is composed of strings, and a string is a vibrating segment of energy. This energy segment can manifest into different material forms. For example, all matter in our world, all elementary particles, are these strings displaying different properties through different vibrational frequencies. Of course, it also has to do with the observer; it has many states. Before it manifests as materiality, this string is very difficult to observe. Many people say, well then, use an experimental instrument to show me a string from your superstring theory -- you cannot observe it, because how small is the superstring theory string? The unit of this string is 10 to the power of negative 3210, and this is all derived from theoretical scientific calculation, not from experimental observation. Negative 32nd power, which is on the scale of a Planck length. The Planck length is basically the smallest unit of length that humanity can currently understand or that can exist mathematically, all on the order of 10 to the negative 30-something power. On this scale, nothing currently known to humanity -- no matter what kind of microscope, electron microscope, or any microscope -- can observe it. What humanity can currently observe is only on the order of 10 to the negative 10-something power, roughly at the scale of 10 to the negative 16th power11 meters, and beyond that it is simply impossible to observe.

How can this kind of energy segment display materiality and become our objects? It was originally an energy body, so how does it now become an object? We can use some theories in quantum mechanics to explain it: this energy segment, at a certain vibrational frequency, or under a certain pattern, under certain specific conditions, displays different material properties -- for example, this one becomes a boson, that one becomes a photon, that one becomes an electron, and so on. We can understand it this way.

To these units, molecules appear as large as planets.

You see, to what units? To EE units, molecules appear as large as planets. From this you can understand how small EE units are. Molecules themselves are very small. We say a water molecule is composed of two hydrogen atoms plus one oxygen atom, three atoms in total. Three atoms, relative to an EE unit, are as large as a planet, so you truly understand how vast the difference is. So this is extremely small, and he gives this example -- somewhat like the string in superstring theory.

Atoms, molecules, planets, and these units are merely different manifestations of the same principle, and it is this principle that allows these units themselves to come into being.

Many people cannot understand this passage, and perhaps do not know what he is trying to say. It does not sound like human language. But if you analyze it carefully, you can understand it.

Remember, the core point is different manifestations of the same principle. Different manifestations of what principle? If you do not understand what he means, what he means to say is this: relative to molecules, EE units are as small as atoms, and molecules are as large as planets. He is telling you that relative to molecules, EE units are compared on a physical scale.

Then he continues: the planets we speak of -- whether Earth or the Sun -- are these planets also composed of these tiny particles? Are they also composed of these atoms becoming molecules, and molecules becoming polymers of larger molecules, forming all the planets we see today? If atoms can form planets, then can EE units also form atoms and also form molecules? He says they are formed by the same principle; the principle is the same, and the way they are formed is the same. It is merely a different manifestation -- it is just that EE units form atoms and molecules, while atoms and molecules form planets. The physical scale you see is completely different, and the sizes are completely different, but the principle is the same. This is the core of the matter.

What principle allows these units themselves to come into being? It is the principle by which EE units form materialization -- the process by which EE units change from an invisible energy unit into a material unit. This process in between is the same principle.

It is only because of your relative position and your focus concentrated upon an apparent space and time that this seems incredible.

What does this mean? Because we are situated in such a space-time angle, our physical scale ranges from millimeters to centimeters to meters to kilometers to thousands of kilometers, tens of thousands of kilometers, even to light-years. So the scale we recognize is the scale of molecules, atoms, and planets. We can only see changes on this scale. He says if you place your space-time focus on the level of EE units, on atoms or units smaller than atoms, you can see the same rule, and their manner of formation is the same. Because your angle is different, your perspective is different, you feel this thing is inconceivable -- how is it possible that energy EE units can become matter? But we know that atoms can become planets; we believe that. We just do not believe that energy can become matter. Because our perspective is different. This passage means this.

If we were living one or two hundred years ago, before the electron microscope was discovered, we could not see the existence of atoms, nor recognize that atoms exist, nor know the laws of electrons orbiting atoms, the atomic nucleus, and so on. Before we understood atomic physics, if you told someone that this table and chair are made of atoms, they would not believe it. It is only now that we have this tool and can use electron microscopes to see things on the scale of atoms that we believe, oh, it is like this. Now you say you have to see something to believe it, so he tells you -- in the end, that energy unit is something you cannot see, because it is not matter. When it has not manifested into matter, how can you see it? It is itself an EE unit, a nonphysical existence.

Therefore each thought or emotion exists as an electromagnetic unit, or in certain cases as a combination of these units, and often with the help of coordination points they show themselves as, or become, the building materials of objects.

This passage is very important. He is now gradually explaining the key points.

Every -- remember, every, not specific ones -- every thought or emotion exists as electromagnetic units, that is, EE units. Your thoughts, your feelings, your emotions -- their existence is in the form of electromagnetic units. They exist. Or in certain cases they exist as combinations of these units. Emotions are also mixed, for example, mixed feelings of grief and joy -- having both the emotion of grief and the emotion of joy -- that is a combination. They often rely on the help of coordination points, that is, this coordination point. Why? Because it has to give them energy. Without the coordination point, the energy will not intensify, and if the energy is not strong enough, matter cannot be formed. It needs a certain amount of energy to turn it into matter.

To show -- show what? It does not directly show matter. It first shows the building materials that become matter. Are the building materials of matter not atoms and molecules? And how do atoms and molecules come about? As was just explained, they are composed of EE units. EE units, under high-speed propulsion, become atoms and molecules. So your feelings and emotions first become the most basic particle units.

Its emergence into matter is an action. This matter itself is a neutral consequence -- atoms and molecules themselves have no good or bad. When your feelings and thoughts manifest into the most primitive material materials, they are themselves neutral, unrelated to the nature of any thought or emotion, as was said earlier. Your good emotions and bad emotions can both become matter.

Therefore the mental image accompanied by strong emotion becomes the blueprint, and the corresponding object, situation, or event appears according to it.

The mental image accompanied by strong emotion -- that is, your strong emotion and feeling have an image in the mind. This image in the mind serves as a blueprint, and the corresponding object, situation, or event appears according to it. This earlier explanation covers how thought becomes matter -- first there is a blueprint.

Intensity Is the Core Factor Determining Materialization

Therefore the intensity of an emotion or a thought or a mental image is an important factor in determining its subsequent physical materialization.

The intensity of emotion is important, the intensity of thought is important, and the intensity of this belief is important. This also reflects what we often say, that many religions will tell you "if you believe, it works; if you do not believe, it does not work." This is a very simple principle. Many people think this is just a slogan or a saying, but actually here it tells you the reason—why does it work if you believe? Because your belief is strong enough. When your belief is strong enough, the intensity of your mental images, the intensity of your emotions, and the intensity of your thoughts are strong enough, and this is an important factor in your subsequent physical materialization.

Many people ask whether religion is actually useful. Well, that depends on the degree of your belief. If you believe very, very strongly, then for many people it is real. Many people who believe in Christianity find that many things manifest in their actual lives as truly real—because they believed in Christianity, their lives improved, their living environment, circumstances, or work all changed, and they feel that this is God manifesting, showing divine power, helping them. The same is true for those who ordinarily believe in Buddhism, and also for those in Islam who believe in Allah. Many people, when praying or meditating, can even see images or pictures of the founder of the religion they believe in, and many of the things they wished for have already come true. These cases are all real and solid. Many people will tell you about things that happened to them, and these are not lies they made up—they are true. But here it tells you where the principle behind this lies.

We are not evaluating these religions, saying whether this religion is good or bad or anything like that. We are only saying that regardless of whether his emotions and his thoughts are good or bad, we are now only talking about the distinction of intensity. When the intensity is strong, it can manifest certain things.

So now you also know why every country is extremely averse to those cult organizations and even bans them—because cults also cause their followers to produce some intense beliefs, intense emotions, or emotional things, and these emotions and feelings will also become things in physical reality. They have collective suicides, they engage in violent activities, they produce terrorist-style emotions, and these will also become reality. It is not that just thinking about it means it is over—no, it will become reality in the practical physical world.

In the process of thought becoming matter, it is neutral. In itself there is no distinction of good or bad. In other words, it is like an engine or a transmission—whatever comes in, it can turn it into material things. In itself it does not discriminate, because from its perspective there is no good or bad, no good or evil. But our human society has its own values and orientations. From the perspective of sociology and the stability of governance and many angles of human development, many people define many thoughts and many beliefs as good, harmless, or harmful, and they define those harmful ones as cults or harmful thoughts. Here he points out where the essential core of this issue lies.

Intensity is the core around which electromagnetic energy units gather to form.

You must remember this: intensity is the core. In your terms, the stronger the core, the faster the physical materialization—the faster the materialization into matter. As I just said, the stronger your belief, the stronger and faster the things that manifest.

Whether it is a terrifying or a pleasing image.

Now here there is a very important issue. If you are a person of very intense temperament—emotionally very intense, with great joy and great sorrow—and you think in vivid emotional mental images, these images will very quickly be formed into physical events. If at the same time you have an extremely pessimistic nature, indulging in thoughts and feelings of potential disaster, then these thoughts will be very faithfully reproduced as experience—so-called experience, meaning it only counts as experience after it has happened.

Here he is reminding certain people. What kind of people? If you are a person of very intense temperament—not a very calm person, not necessarily irritable, but emotionally very intense, with great joy and great sorrow, very emotional—if you are such a person, many of the things in your mind will become very concretely materialized reality. If at this time you happen to also have an extremely pessimistic nature, then it is very dangerous. Because your indulgence in thoughts and feelings of potential disaster will also be faithfully reproduced in your actual life and become reality.

I do not need to explain this. Many pessimistic, many emotional people have life conditions that become their reality. Many very pessimistic people have lives that are very pessimistic and very miserable, because they always think of the worst side of everything, always thinking about the bad side of things. The result is that the worst side, always in order to confirm their thoughts, happens again and again, proving again and again that what they thought was right. Then they become even more firm in their belief—see, I was right, I originally thought nothing good would happen, and sure enough nothing good happened. Next time this belief will be even stronger, they will be even more convinced of their own viewpoint, and it will manifest even faster, and worse things will come, and then they will reinforce it again, and they will always be like this. Now you can find where the problem lies.

Therefore the more intense your imagination and inner feelings are, the more important it is that you understand the method by which these inner feelings become physical reality.

If your inner feelings are very strong and your imagination is also very rich, then you must understand: the process by which these inner things become facts is real and very important. If you are a very calm person, then this matter is not a big deal, it does not matter much to you, because you are already very calm. If you are a person of intense emotions, with violent inner fluctuations, and also a super-rich imagination, then understanding that these inner feelings will become facts is especially important for you—you cannot just think randomly, because if you think randomly, it will become real.

In the very moment that your thoughts and feelings are conceived, they have already begun to move toward the path of physical development.

When a thought arises in your mind, when you think that something will have a bad result, it has already begun to manifest toward that bad result. If you happen to live in a place where the coordinate environment is very strong—if you happen to live in a place where the angle formed by the coordinate points is very strong, where the energy is very strong—for you, in this situation, it is not a good thing. If disease and disaster are the essence of your thoughts, then it will seem as if you are overwhelmed by a flood of disaster and disease, because all thoughts grow very rapidly in this environment.

He reminds you to pay attention: your thoughts, your feelings, and your emotions will form physical reality. For some calm people it is a bit better—why be calm? Because the emotions are not that intense. But for those with very intense emotions, you must be careful. If your thoughts are positive, that is fine, but if you are negative and also happen to live in a place with a very strong energy field, then it is especially dangerous, because your negative thoughts will very quickly become your reality. This is a reminder for everyone to pay attention. You can examine yourself to see whether your own thoughts and your own environment are like this. If they are, change immediately, otherwise things will only get worse and worse.

On the other hand, if your emotions and subjective state are fairly stable, without that much emotional excitement, fairly optimistic, and possessed of constructive creativity, then you will seem to have very good luck.

Some people feel that their luck is just good, that they have been this smooth since childhood, good in every way. Because their subjective feelings are very stable, fairly optimistic, and also highly creative, so they will have this feeling—your pleasant assumptions are all realized so quickly. Just now those unpleasant assumptions were also realized very quickly, so now are these pleasant assumptions also realized very quickly?

Where Are the Points of Intersection

To put it simply, in part of the west coast or east coast of the United States. On the west coast, the line runs from Seattle down through Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego; on the east coast, the line runs from Boston, New York, and Philadelphia in the north, down to Washington, to North Carolina and South Carolina, all the way to Miami along the entire eastern seaboard. This includes part of the United States, and also Utah -- Utah is the Mormon region, where Salt Lake City is located, a place with many national parks; the Great Lakes region, that is, the five Great Lakes area, around Chicago, including Detroit and the Chicago area; and also Minneapolis, a city to the west of Chicago. There are also some other southwestern areas -- the southwestern region includes the California area, and that also counts as the southwest. All of these places are zones with excellent intersection activity.

Actually it is very simple. Look at where the population is large, where the population is dense -- excluding, of course, places unsuitable for human survival -- those places are basically all suitable for human survival. Basically speaking, wherever the population is dense, that is a zone of intersection-point activity, a zone of intersection activity, and materialization will appear very quickly. So in these places everything is fast. Many people ask why big cities have that fast-paced life, while small mountain villages have a slow-paced life. It is also for this reason -- everything is fast there, everything manifests quickly, everything is realized quickly, and everything changes quickly. Therefore both constructive and destructive factors are also very high. Here good things happen very quickly, and bad things also happen very quickly. Because the energy is strong, and energy is neutral.

For example, these points of intersection themselves set off atomic and molecular activity in the same way that the sun helps plants grow.

How do the points of intersection set off atomic and molecular activity? Just as the sun helps plants grow, it catalyzes them invisibly. The sun gives energy to plants, just as the points of intersection give energy to our matter -- you cannot see it, and you cannot feel how it becomes this way.

The points of intersection impel atoms and molecules into behavior that gives rise to life -- behavior that gives rise to life means they will combine and change, greatly encouraging their capacity for cooperation, allowing atoms and molecules to combine with one another, to arrange and recombine, to undergo all kinds of chemical reactions, that is, their tendency to cluster into organized and structural groups. Individual atoms and molecules cannot form matter; certain molecules and certain atoms combine together, and they become the matter we see -- water molecules form the water we see. That is the simple principle.

The points of intersection amplify or strengthen this behavior. The nature of matter inherently possesses latent spontaneity.

They are like psychic generators, propelling what has not yet become physical into physical form.

The points of intersection are like psychic generators; they push what has not yet materialized into materialization.

Now this is not a technical book, so this is not the time or place to thoroughly discuss the activity, behavior, and effects of these points of intersection. But I want you to know that thoughts and emotions form matter through quite definite laws, in very obvious ways -- as obvious as the way atoms form our planet. There is regularity in the middle of it; how it is composed has regularity. Although these methods and laws are not yet known to people, we humans do not yet know what these laws and methods are. We have just now figured out how atoms and molecules combine, how molecules form more matter -- all of that has been figured out -- but this deeper level of things has still not been figured out.

For those who wish to study these questions more deeply, perhaps those who may be interested from a scientific angle, these processes will be clearly explained in other portions of the Seth material.

Many people say, what you are saying is too vague. I am a scientist, a physicist, and I want to study the fundamental nature of this world. You say the essence of this world is not material, but spiritual and emotional, so tell me, can you explain it in more detail, more precisely, so that it can help my scientific research and contribute to human progress? Seth says, yes, but not here; it is in other material. When he wrote this book, this material did not yet exist, but later he published a book specifically focused on this part -- for example, in The "Unknown" Reality, he specifically discussed the units of consciousness and EE units that make up this world, how they are composed and how they work. That book is also very difficult to understand; it is basically one of the two most difficult books in all of the Seth material -- one is Dreams, "Evolution," and Value Fulfillment, and the other is The "Unknown" Reality.

If you are someone who wants to consider this question from a scientific angle, go look there. We will not expand on it here, because it involves far too many scientific things and very, very abstract things. Everything he talks about is not a matter of this three-dimensional space; he talks about things entirely within that consciousness space and energy space.

Why are we discussing this question here? Only because he has touched on the multidimensional aspects of personality. Personality itself is multidimensional; they allow you to materialize certain subjective experiences into three-dimensional reality. The subjective experiences of your consciousness will radiate out and become EE units. Your subjective experiences are just some thoughts, some emotions, and they will become three-dimensional things. Because your personality has this multidimensional ability, I am telling you how these multidimensional thoughts of yours can become three-dimensional reality. But he says we will not discuss this question in detail here.

However, before I leave this subject -- that is, before I stop discussing how thought becomes matter -- let me remind you of one thing: you must not think that only you yourself, but rather all consciousness, to a greater or lesser degree, gives off these emanations. What emanations? These EE units. It is not only you who has this; all things in creation have this ability. Anything that has consciousness will radiate out this thing, radiate out this kind of energy unit.

This also includes the consciousness of cells. Your cells are also conscious. Is each cell also radiating out its EE units? Can the EE units of these cells also form reality? Can they also kill viruses, form the immune system, form immune cells? Consider it from this angle: why is it said that under the current pandemic situation, the optimism of your thoughts or changes in your emotions can produce a spiritual immunity effect -- I previously made four separate videos discussing how Seth views the pandemic issue, so I will not discuss that question again here. Your cells have this ability, so when you change, your cells also change, and when your cells change, they also change the microenvironment, and they also change the immune system within your body.

Therefore an invisible web of electromagnetic units fills all of our atmosphere.

All of space is composed of a web of EE units. On this web, material particles can form -- those atoms and electrons can form, and from them the matter we see can then be composed. So now you know, this world we see is not only formed by our consciousness; it is not only that you create your world -- all the things around you are also creating.

Now just discussing this subject could fill an entire book. For example, information about the locations of the main and absolute points of intersection -- many people are interested. You just said these points of intersection are so important, and the secondary points of intersection needless to say also affect our lives, so can you tell me where the main points of intersection in the world are? What exactly are the GPS coordinates of those four absolute points of intersection? Where is the angle they form, the angle opposite to the strongest energy, and where is that region? Regarding this location -- this location is actually a location in three-dimensional space, but it is a location in multidimensional space, perhaps a location in four-dimensional space, or a location in a higher-dimensional space, or there is also a location in three-dimensional time that overlaps with three-dimensional time -- it might be extremely beneficial to you. From the perspective of this benefit, of course we all want to know where it is. He says this could fill a book.

You take pride in your technology and in the durable goods you produce, including buildings and roads, but many of these are insignificant compared with other structures of the "past."

The buildings you build now, you think they are very durable, able to last for hundreds of years, decades or hundreds of years, but compared with ancient structures that last for thousands of years, thousands and thousands of years, they are still insignificant. And what technology did they have then, compared with what technology you have now?

If you truly understood the way concepts become material forms, your so-called modern technology would undergo a complete revision.

When we come to understand the Seth material directly from a scientific angle, we will undergo a complete revision -- re-understanding this world, re-understanding the principles by which matter forms the world, re-examining the world in which we live. And it would enable you to build far more durable buildings than you now do -- the most practical change is that you could make better and more useful things. If you built a house now and assumed its lifespan could reach three thousand years, would that not be a once-and-for-all thing? Including roads and other structures.

When the psychic reality behind matter is ignored, you cannot effectively use those methods that do exist, nor can you benefit from them.

When you ignore the psychic reality behind matter, you cannot use these methods, and you cannot enjoy their benefits either. Because you do not believe in it, and you do not accept it. If you could discover and accept this point, would you not find that you have a godlike ability? What you think is what you get, and it also tells you where the energy comes from, how your thoughts become matter -- you have this ability; every one of you is a god.

Unless you first perceive your own psychic reality, and that it is not limited by physical laws, you cannot understand the psychic reality that is the true prime mover of your physical existence.

Many people get confused when they read this. What it means is this: only when you first go to understand your own psychic reality, and then you understand that it is not limited by physical laws, can you understand the true soul behind this physical existence of your body. What exactly is its psychic reality? What is the true prime mover? Your matter is composed of your emotions and thoughts, so what is this person you are now, this lump of flesh, this hundred-plus pounds, composed of? What kind of emotions, what kind of thoughts, form the you of now? First recognize this point, and then you can recognize the consciousness that forms you -- it must be formed by consciousness, and the emanations of consciousness are EE units, that is, energy units. After the emanations of consciousness are influenced by emotions, they radiate out these energy units, and they become matter, and only then can they form the person we are now.

What this sentence is asking is this: you have taken the first step, knowing that your inner psychic reality is like this, and only then can you go on to think, what is the psychological reality of the consciousness that forms you? Is that not a very profound question? Many people ask what the purpose of consciousness is. Many people ask me, with reincarnation, one lifetime after another, what is the meaning and purpose of consciousness? What does it want to do? Does it want to obtain my experience? Is it using me for practice, having me hand over experience to it again and again, so it levels up while I fight monsters? You cannot understand this now. Only when you first understand your own inner self, and accept that the environment around you is created by your thoughts and beliefs, can you go one step further and understand the true reality that forms you -- what its psychological reality is. Only when you become one with it can you understand it.

Therefore my primary purpose is to make you aware that you are a part of that inner entity.

What are you here for? He states his primary purpose -- to make you aware that you are only a part of some inner entity. You are not the whole of you; you are only a part of a larger entity.

And to clear away the debris of reason and superstition that prevents you from recognizing your own potential and freedom.

Clear away what? Clear away superstition and reason. What is reason? Only accepting science -- I only believe in science, do not tell me about these things, I do not accept any of these things, unless you let me see it, otherwise I will not accept any of it, everything you tell me is nonsense, superstition and the supernatural, do not tell me about it -- he clings stubbornly to reason and will not let go. And there is another kind, superstition, that is, all kinds of other superstitions -- all kinds of doctrines, all kinds of religions, like believing in some thing, believing there is a God who created this world, that there is an even higher god above us, and we are merely insignificant; even believing that aliens control the earth, that we are the slaves of aliens, that we are locked inside an earthly prison and cannot get out, and so on -- all of these are called superstition. What he means is this: I am here to tell you, you must break down these superstitions and this reason; neither of these two can be kept.

What should you bring into play? Your own potential and freedom. What is potential? Potential is that you have the potential of what you think is what you get -- you have this ability; the thoughts you think, your emotions, your feelings, can conjure forth the material world. This is your potential. Freedom? You can be unlimited; your thoughts are unlimited, your consciousness is unlimited. What kind of world you want is completely open, completely free, with infinite possibilities.

Nevertheless, you may perhaps begin to learn the many ways of using freedom.

Then after he teaches you this, he says you must intuit this, and then you may perhaps begin to learn the many ways of using freedom. His words are all very profound; think carefully about every sentence. What does "learn the many ways of using freedom" mean? You can write your thoughts in the comments section below and see how you interpret this sentence. You cannot always just listen to me talk, right? Do you not have your own thinking? Every sentence, every person's feeling is different. Think about what he really wants to say with this sentence -- what ways are there exactly? He says "many ways," the many ways of learning to use them. What ways are there, what ways can you think of? You cannot just put the book down and be done with it; you have to think: which ways of using freedom do you intend to begin learning? In other words, what changes do you intend to make? After putting down this book and turning off this video, what do you intend to do? That is what you should have learned after listening to this lecture and reading this book. It is not that after reading the book you close it and go on doing whatever you were doing. Then what meaning is there in spending so much time listening to this and learning this? There is no meaning.

The content of Chapter Five is very important. If you cannot understand it all at once, you can listen to it again two more times. This is the core of all Seth theory -- beliefs create reality, or how your thoughts become matter. Here he explains all of his principles and processes, but he does not fully expand on all the details, because it is too complex, too much; one book cannot cover it all. The "Unknown" Reality is two full volumes, very thick, it seems like several hundred pages, more than eight hundred pages, I cannot remember exactly, very thick. You can go find it and take a look, if you are interested.

注释与核实

  1. Source: Books.com.tw, The Eternal Validity of the Soul (Seth Book) (by Jane Roberts, translated by Wang Chi-ching, Fangzhi Publishing, 1995) (https://www.books.com.tw/products/0010034552) ↩

  2. This claim could not be verified. ↩

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  4. Source: Encyclopaedia Britannica, "Water | Definition, Chemical Formula, Structure, Molecule, & Facts" (https://www.britannica.com/science/water) ↩

  5. Source: Ministry of Education of the People's Republic of China, National Language and Script Work Committee, List of Commonly Used Modern Chinese Words (Draft) (http://www.moe.gov.cn/jyb_sjzl/ziliao/A19/201001/t20100115_75693.html) ↩

  6. Source: National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), "CODATA Value: Planck length" (https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkl=) ↩

  7. According to Mike's original words, it was "10 to the -15 to -16 power"; upon verification, it should be "the diameter of an atomic nucleus is on the order of 10⁻¹⁵ to 10⁻¹⁴ meters (about a few femtometers to over ten femtometers), not 10⁻¹⁵ to 10⁻¹⁶ meters." (Source: Encyclopaedia Britannica, "Atomic nucleus," https://www.britannica.com/science/atomic-nucleus) ↩

  8. Source: National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), "CODATA Value: Planck length" (https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkl=) ↩

  9. This claim could not be verified. ↩

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